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		<title>iPod: Shuffling Songs and Podcasts</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 23:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jamie Cox</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Skip when shuffling: That's not a feature, it's a bug!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Updated Jan 17, 2010</em></p>
<blockquote><p>
Q: When is a playlist not a playlist?</p>
<p>A: When it won&#8217;t play.
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<p>I have an iPod Nano, 2nd generation. I have a pretty simple routine for using it. I have two smart playlists in iTunes that I sync with the Nano, one contains music, and one contains podcasts. Every week, I update the podcasts, randomize the music, and sync my iPod. I always leave my iPod set to &#8220;shuffle songs&#8221;. Whether I am listening to music or podcasts, I want to pick the next one randomly. I don&#8217;t want to listen in alphabetic order. I listen to my iPod primarily in the car, and mostly listen to podcasts as opposed to music. I typically have several episodes of each podcast in the playlist.  While driving, when one podcast ends, I don&#8217;t want to fiddle with my iPod, I just want it to start playing the next podcast. I also don&#8217;t want to listen to all the episodes of a single podcast before hearing any of the others. (Who could stand 4 episodes of Car Talk in a row?) None of the available sort orders in iTunes seems right. <em>Date Modified</em> seemed like a good choice, but some providers modify a lot of their podcasts at the same time, so I would get, say, a bunch of NPR podcasts in a row. So the best for me is random, aka shuffle. If I do hear the same one twice, or something I don&#8217;t like, all I have to do is hit the <em>next</em> button on the iPod to skip past it. </p>
<p>Way back in 2006, this stopped working for me when I upgraded from firmware 1.1.1 to 1.2. As I understood the situation then, in iPod Nano firmware 1.2: </p>
<blockquote><p>1.) Any playlist with only podcasts won&#8217;t play.</p>
<p>2.) A playlist with some songs and some podcasts will play, but only the songs will play. A playlist with 2 songs and 10 podcasts plays, saying &#8220;1 of 2&#8243;.
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<p>There was some discussion about this on the Apple support forums, but no real resolution, except to revert to 1.1.1. Surely, I thought, Apple would fix this egregious bug in later firmware versions. However, Apple never says what changes are made in any of the iPod firmware releases, so I just stayed with 1.1.1.  </p>
<p>When iTunes 9.0.2 came out, it was incompatible with the old firmware and all of a sudden, I couldn&#8217;t connect my iPod to iTunes anymore. I was forced to update the firmware to 1.3.1 (BTW, this was way, way too difficult), and the problem was back. </p>
<p>Finally, after four years, I understand what the problem was. It&#8217;s not a bug, it&#8217;s a &#8220;feature&#8221;. Podcasts typically all have an obscure setting called <em>Skip when shuffling</em> turned on. Since I always had <em>Shuffle Songs</em> turned on, I could never play any podcasts as part of a playlist. The only way to play a podcast was one at a time. I now understand that firmware 1.1.1 was the last release for the Nano that didn&#8217;t implement the <em>Skip when shuffling</em> bit. It sure would have been nice if Apple had been telling us what changed in each firmware release. </p>
<p>Somebody at Apple decided, in their infinite wisdom, that <em>nobody</em> would <em>ever</em> want to shuffle podcasts. Well, hello, I do!  I can understand that you might not want certain tracks to play in rotation, but when they are chosen by the user to be in a playlist, the user has spoken, and his choice should be honored. </p>
<p>There are a couple of things Apple could do about this.  The best would be to fix iPod firmware to ignore <em>Skip when shuffling </em>when playing a playlist, but honor it when the user is playing everything on the iPod in shuffle mode. Another way would be an option in iTunes to clear the <em>Skip when shuffling </em>bit when downloading podcasts, or when creating a playlist. </p>
<p>Meanwhile there is a work-around. When you have your podcasts downloaded, before syncing them to the iPod, Select All in the playlist, Get Info, and click the options tab, and then select no for <em>Skip when shuffling</em>.  When you apply this, it will get rid of the pesky <em>Skip when shuffling</em> bit on all tracks in the playlist.</p>
<p>This is a poor workaround, since the <em>Skip when shuffling</em> attribute is removed from those files, not just within the playlist, but in your entire library, and all devices syncing with your library. I approve of the designed behavior of <em>Skip when shuffling</em> in general, but it should not apply inside a playlist.</p>
<p>Does anyone know if this problem is the same on other iPod versions? </p>
<p>-Jamie Cox</p>
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